Therapy was Full Podcast

Hosted by Dustin Hayes, a Navy veteran and coffee shop owner, and Terrence Davis, a Marine Corps vet turned real estate professional, Therapy Was Full is where veterans, survivors, and seekers get real about the battles no one sees.

This isn’t your typical vet podcast — no victim mindsets, no sugarcoating. Just raw stories about fatherhood, trauma, shame, healing, hustle, self improvement and the messy, beautiful process of rebuilding yourself from the inside out.

Every week, Dustin and Terrence sit down to unpack the weight of the past, the realities of being men in a broken system, and what it takes to move forward when no one handed you the manual.

Episodes

Oct 16, 2026

43 min

"I just spent a month getting cleared for this specific job... I'm done." After 21 years as a Navy helicopter pilot, Sean Mulrooney lost his flight status to a sudden ear infection and then watched the Navy shuffle him through orders that went nowhere. He walked away from the system, and he walked into the Veterans Beer Club, where veterans skip the 100-resume stack and meet hiring managers face to face. Dustin Hayes and Antwon get into SkillBridge, veteran networking, why transition is harder than it should be, and what it means to find purpose after you stop flying. If you're a transitioning service member or a business looking to hire veterans, this one is for you. After 21 years as a Navy helicopter pilot, Sean Mulrooney lost his flight status overnight. This is how he navigated the transition. Sean shares the reality of sudden medical disqualification and the frustration of waiting for a system that eventually walked away. When his military career ended due to a severe ear infection, he had to find a new sense of purpose outside the cockpit. We discuss why the transition process often feels like a dead end and how he managed to redefine his identity after two decades of service. This conversation centers on the power of the Veterans Beer Club and why face-to-face networking is more effective than sending out hundreds of resumes. If you are a transitioning service member or looking for a community that prioritizes real wellness checks over bureaucratic red tape, this episode provides a blueprint for what comes next. Sean explains how he leveraged his experience to find a new mission, proving that your service doesn't have to define your only chapter. Subscribe for weekly conversations on military life and finding purpose after service. What is the biggest challenge you faced when transitioning out of the military?

Oct 16, 2026

43 min

Oct 15, 2026

1 hr 21 min

Leland Holgate returns to Therapy Was Full Podcast for a conversation about survival, trauma, military service, addiction, recovery, and the decision to take ownership of his life.After a childhood shaped by trauma, Leland joined the Air Force and served as a C-130 loadmaster. He later suffered a catastrophic spinal injury that left him unable to feel or move below his neck. Doctors warned him that he might never regain his mobility.But that wasn't the end of his story.Leland talks openly about the mindset that helped him fight his way back, the role of breathwork and yoga in his recovery, and the years of alcohol and drug addiction that followed as he tried to numb unresolved trauma. He also shares how homelessness, recovery, education, and his work studying neuroscience ultimately became part of a much bigger mission.The conversation goes beyond what happened to him. It explores what it means to take ownership of your life after trauma—and how men can stop hiding behind pain, excuses, and unhealthy forms of connection.“You are not broken. It is not too late. It’s not the end of your story.”If you've ever felt like your past has already decided your future, this episode is for you.Topics discussed: childhood trauma • military service • C-130 loadmaster • spinal injury • recovery • addiction • homelessness • breathwork • yoga • neuroscience • accountability • resilience • men's mental health • finding purposeLeland Holgate shares his journey of trauma recovery after a spinal injury left him told he would never walk again.Leland discusses his time as an Air Force loadmaster and the life-altering event that changed his path. This conversation covers the reality of his struggle with addiction recovery and the long, difficult road to regaining his mobility and independence after doctors warned he might never regain function.Beyond the physical healing, Leland explores the role of breathwork, yoga, and neuroscience in reclaiming his life. It is a candid look at men's mental health, the impact of homelessness, and how to stop using past pain as an excuse for the present.Subscribe for weekly conversations on resilience, and share in the comments what you found most helpful about Leland's approach to healing.

Oct 15, 2026

1 hr 21 min

Sep 30, 2026

53 min

Leland Holgate grew up under a father from the 75th Ranger Regiment who trained him in Krav Maga and combatives starting at age five — using violent, abusive punishment for ordinary childhood mistakes while presenting a loving family-man image to the outside world. Dustin Hayes and Terrence Davis sit down with Leland to unpack what it meant to survive that childhood, why boot camp felt easier than home, and how a chokehold confrontation at 17 became the turning point that sent him into the Air Force as a C-130 loadmaster. Leland shares his path through Operation Northern Watch, the Kenya embassy bombing response, and Operation Allied Force in Kosovo, and opens up about his complicated relationship with his mother, an Army nurse who couldn't protect him, and the devastating text he received from his father on his own birthday in 2016. This episode covers generational trauma, victim mentality versus true accountability, and what real healing looks like when the wound never fully closes. This episode contains detailed discussion of child abuse and suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, the Veterans Crisis Line is available 24/7: dial 988, then press 1.

Sep 30, 2026

53 min

Sep 22, 2026

1 hr 6 min

Tammy and Ed join Therapy Was Full to talk about Saddles in Service, a nonprofit using horsemanship to help veterans, active-duty service members, and first responders heal. The organization started after Tammy watched rescued horses help her husband, a retired Navy veteran, work through PTSD, anxiety, and depression — and grew into a structured, year-long program built on horsemanship, mentorship, trail riding, and a capstone experience in Wyoming. Tammy explains how horses mirror a person's energy and body language in real time, giving participants immediate, honest feedback that helps rebuild self-awareness, emotional regulation, and trust. They share the story of a former Army medevac pilot who went from isolated and over-medicated to deeply involved in the ranch community, and discuss a short film — inspired by real veterans in the program — about a veteran considering suicide after losing a friend to suicide, interrupted by the horse he'd bonded with. This episode covers veteran isolation, nontraditional mental health support, equine therapy, and how community can be rebuilt one horse, one relationship, at a time. This episode includes discussion of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, the Veterans Crisis Line is available 24/7: dial 988, then press 1.
 
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Sep 22, 2026

1 hr 6 min

Sep 14, 2026

36 min

Twenty-five years after September 11, 2001, Dustin Hayes and Terrence Davis sit down to reflect on where they were that day and how it quietly rerouted the rest of their lives. Dustin was on duty aboard the USS Nimitz when the second plane hit — the moment the Navy realized the country was under attack and shifted into wartime readiness in real time. That single day became the first link in a chain that led him through multiple deployments, Afghanistan, combat operations alongside special forces, injury, and eventually the end of his Navy career. Terrence was in a high school classroom, trying to comfort a friend who feared her father might have been on one of the hijacked flights. Years later, he joined the Marine Corps, deployed to Iraq, and became a recruiter — a role that put him face to face with the grief and guilt of former recruits watching the Afghanistan withdrawal unfold, some losing friends from their own units in the final days. This episode also honors Terrence's uncle Ralph, a Verizon fiber technician who volunteered at Ground Zero to help clear rubble and restore communications beneath the wreckage. This is a tribute to the lives lost, the first responders, the volunteers, and every service member whose life was shaped by what came after that morning.00:00 Cold Open: 25 Years Later

Sep 14, 2026

36 min

Sep 14, 2026

1 hr 6 min

Tammy and Ed join Therapy Was Full to talk about Saddles in Service, a nonprofit using horsemanship to help veterans, active-duty service members, and first responders heal. The organization started after Tammy watched rescued horses help her husband, a retired Navy veteran, work through PTSD, anxiety, and depression — and grew into a structured, year-long program built on horsemanship, mentorship, trail riding, and a capstone experience in Wyoming. Tammy explains how horses mirror a person's energy and body language in real time, giving participants immediate, honest feedback that helps rebuild self-awareness, emotional regulation, and trust. They share the story of a former Army medevac pilot who went from isolated and over-medicated to deeply involved in the ranch community, and discuss a short film — inspired by real veterans in the program — about a veteran considering suicide after losing a friend to suicide, interrupted by the horse he'd bonded with. This episode covers veteran isolation, nontraditional mental health support, equine therapy, and how community can be rebuilt one horse, one relationship, at a time. This episode includes discussion of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, the Veterans Crisis Line is available 24/7: dial 988, then press 1.

Sep 14, 2026

1 hr 6 min

Sep 4, 2026

29 min

This is the conversation that happened before the cameras officially started rolling. In this behind-the-scenes moment from Therapy Was Full, Guy McDermott — VFW commander and founder/co-founder of Warrior House — opens up about a spiritual awakening that reframed how he saw his own role in his marriage and career struggles. He talks candidly about the moment he stopped seeing himself as a victim and started owning the ways his own choices — taking off his wedding ring, spiraling under stress, missing the expectations he'd set for himself — shaped the outcomes he was living with. Unscripted, unpolished, and honest in a way that only happens when the "interview" hasn't technically started yet.
00:00 Cold Open: "I Wasn't the Victim"
01:30 The Church Service That Changed His Perspective
04:00 Owning His Role in His Marriage
07:00 The Wedding Ring Moment
10:00 Not Meeting His Own Expectations
13:00 The Move to California, Made in Anger
16:00 A Panic Attack He Didn't See Coming
19:00 Faith, Prayer & Realizing He Was a Son, Not a Victim
22:00 Top Producer While Falling Apart Inside
25:00 The Role of Community & Church in Healing
28:00 Closing Thoughts Before Recording Begins

Sep 4, 2026

29 min

Aug 26, 2026

1 hr 1 min

www.iconpodcastnet.com Yes, the Marine Corps has a band — and Jedidiah was in it. This episode covers what most people never learn about military music programs, the grind of recruiting duty, and how a divorce derailed 13 years of active duty service and forced a total career reset. Dustin Hayes and Terrence Davis talk with Jedidiah about building Green Hat Entertainment to support local musicians, his work with CASA advocating for foster kids, and why music keeps showing up as the thing that holds people together — from a junior high talent show to a Marine Corps band concert that changed how he saw the world. #marineband #veteran #unsubscribepodcast #comedy #veteranspodcast

Aug 26, 2026

1 hr 1 min

Aug 13, 2026

1 hr 49 min

"Why are we paying for the dates in the first place?" That question kicks off an hour-plus roundtable with Dustin Hayes, Terrence Davis, Trevor Ahing, and Chris Lorenz on dating standards, covert contracts, and what chivalry actually means today. Trevor breaks down a date gone sideways — a canceled plan, an uninvited friend at dinner, and a text that changed everything — while the group debates financial contribution, communication, and whether the value of men has actually changed or just the standards around them. No scripts, no filters, just four guys talking honestly about a topic everyone has an opinion on.  @treverahing  00:00 Cold Open: "Why Are We Paying for the Dates?" 01:20 Intro & Meet the Panel 02:45 Setting Up the Topic: Dating in This Age 06:00 Trevor's Story: The Girl, the Alignment, the Green Flags 09:00 Date One & Two: Off to a Great Start 11:00 The Energy Flip: "I Love the Idea of a Man Like You" 14:00 The Splatter Paint Date That Became a Pedicure 19:00 Men, Get Your Toes Done: A Hill Worth Dying On 22:00 She Invites a Friend to Dinner Without Asking 26:00 Covert Contracts Explained 30:00 Power Is in the Question: Planning vs. Controlling 36:00 Who Should Pay? Old School vs. New School 44:00 The Value of a Man Has Changed — Or Has It? 52:00 Protection, Provision & What Women Actually Want 1:00:00 Trevor's Wife: The Battery Behind the Businessman 1:08:00 Peter Pan Syndrome & Emotional Investment 1:15:00 Final Thoughts & Where to Find Trevor and Chris

Aug 13, 2026

1 hr 49 min

Jul 26, 2026

55 min

I called my wife and said, I'm not going." Days before the move, Trevor Ahing backed out of relocating to Sacramento — then spent six months in an RV with no running water proving to his wife, and himself, that staying was the right call. Dustin Hayes and Terrence Davis get into real estate hustle, the discipline it took to make 300 dials a day, and how that grind became Marwak — a financial literacy movement built specifically for Marines. This episode covers entrepreneurship, sacrifice, marriage under pressure, and what it actually means to "come home" after service.

Jul 26, 2026

55 min

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